And what the hell do you mean by "Hard-boiled," for that matter?

The never-ending quest for a definition of this term (it's been going on at Rara-Avis since at least the last millenium) has provided some pretty lengthy, articulate responses. But the best ones have been the short ones.

THE DOHERTY DICTUM

Jim Doherty, a friend of this site and mine, came up with, what to me, is just the cleanest, straightest, most straight-up definition of hard-boiled I've come across, on Rara-Avis.

"Hard-boiled is tough and colloquial. It's about attitude. That's really all there is to it."

Jim also serves up a pretty good definition of noir, by the way.

Mark Best gave this quickie definition of the difference between hard-boiled and noir in December 2001, on the ShortMystery list:

"For me, it is a matter of hope... there is none in noir, while there is in hardboiled."

Margolies goes on to suggest that contemporary interest in detective fiction is due 'to nostalgia'. Detective fiction:

AND WHY DO WE CARE?

"Tell us what we would like to believe -- that courage and integrity still count, and perhaps, above all, an individual's actions make a difference: as our lives become more and more bureaucritised, we long for the clarity and decisiveness of the hard-boiled hero."
(Edward Margolies, from Which Way Did He Go?)

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